this sort of talk is going to become much more prevalent in the coming days/years. the failing economy and cultural striation likely will cause catastrophic failure of the civilizing forces in our society. sooner or later, no carbon race bikes, internet sleaze, or yo la tengo hanukkah shows will be enough to keep 'em down on the farm. the big lie about america will no longer be believed by enough of the assholes to keep the peace. then it gets weird and not in a good way.
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