Ukraine Did Not Shoot Down Flight 17

That's insane.  They couldn't keep it hidden forever, and when the truth came out, Putin would be freed to turn Ukraine into his personal playground while the world cheered.  Shooting down an airliner with an SU-25--even if an SU-25 could shoot down an airliner at 30,000 feet, which is not bloodly likely--is not exactly subtle, and I have a hard time accepting that even those fascist buffoons in Kiev would be that reckless.  If they did it, if they used their official Ukrainian military hardware to shoot down the plane in order to frame Putin, those wannabe Nazi fucks have committed national suicide.